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Evolving NFL double standards?
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:55 pm
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    Remember when the Seahawks were fined over a lucid Russell Wilson going into and then right back out of a concussion tent?

    Replays showed Savage looking dazed after his head hit the ground with both of his arms shaking and lifted upward. He was taken to the medical tent where he stayed for less than three minutes before returning to the bench and going back in for the next series.
    The NFL said the Texans would not be fined for the incident. The NFL and the union review determined that the medical staff followed protocol but that his return to the game was "unacceptable."


    Different interpretations for different folks. I don't know that any standard protocol actually exists. It may be just another myth.

    When is a concussion a concussion? When is a catch a catch? When is interference pass interference?

    Link >>> https://pro32.ap.org/article/nfl-changes-concussion-protocol-after-savage-incident
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:10 pm
  • Rules are too subjective these days. I felt in SB49 that Edelman and Amendola both got concussion but were allowed to continue playing. However, Avril was ruled out during the game. Since then, I've always felt the rules are interpreted differently based on who's involved and what teams are involved. It is what it is.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:25 pm
  • The Seahawks were fined because Wilson was sent off the field to go into the concussion protocol and went back on the field without having done it, which is in violation of the CBA.

    Savage wasn’t sent off the field. Savage went through the concussion protocol. Savage was then pulled for exhibiting concussion like symptoms after passing the protocol.

    If you wanna argue Savage should have been sent off the field I 100% agree and if you wanna argue the protocols and procedures around concussions aren’t robust enough I 100% agree, but in no way whatsoever is there evidence of a double standard across these two cases.

    Wilson was ordered to go into the protocol and decided not to. That’s it. Full stop.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:36 pm
  • Popeyejones wrote:The Seahawks were fined because Wilson was sent off the field to go into the concussion protocol and went back on the field without having done it, which is in violation of the CBA.

    Savage wasn’t sent off the field. Savage went through the concussion protocol. Savage was then pulled for exhibiting concussion like symptoms after passing the protocol.

    If you wanna argue Savage should have been sent off the field I 100% agree and if you wanna argue the protocols and procedures around concussions aren’t robust enough I 100% agree, but in no way whatsoever is there evidence of a double standard across these two cases.

    Wilson was ordered to go into the protocol and decided not to. That’s it. Full stop.


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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:55 am
  • I am still waiting to see why Green Bay hasn't been forced to release Erin.
    The NFL nixed a trade between Cincy and Cleveland because of a technicality. Why hasn't the NFL enforced it's own rule regarding the IR status of Rodgers?
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:45 pm
  • The evolving hypocracy is from the NCAA up thru the ranks of NFL or the other way around. I am watching a lot of NCAA games and see the same deceptions there too. They seem to want their team to win.......So this has become NCAA/WWE visa vie NFL/WWE.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:17 am
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    Newton then struggled to get to his feet and collapsed to the turf while trying to jog to the sidelines. He was then tended to by medical personnel and helped off the field. The Panthers immediately announced Newton was being evaluated for a concussion.

    Newton, however, was only taken into the team's medical tent rather than the locker room. This would appear to be a violation of the NFL's new concussion protocol, which states: "A player who exhibits gross motor instability or significant loss of balance must be taken to the locker room for evaluation if it is not diagnosed as an orthopedic injury."

    Cam Newton takes big hit as Panthers reportedly appear to violate concussion protocol >>>> http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/cam-newton-drilled-panthers-violate-concussion-protocol-article-1.3743284
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:23 am
  • "He was taken to the medical tent where he stayed for less than three minutes before returning to the bench and going back in for the next series."

    There is NO way you can do a concussion protocol in under 3 minutes. With those bizarre reactions on the field, he should have been in that tent for at least 10 minutes.

    And, they admit, he never should have gone back in the game.

    But no fine. Zero dollars.

    In the Souper bowl, Edelman did get a concussion, everyone saw it, yet he went back in the game. THat off season I saw an interview with him the interviewer asked him "Shouldn't you have sat out after that concussion?" He smirked, and replied, "What's a concussion?"

    And that's why we have the tent now, and the protocol, and the independent evaluators...speaking of which, where are those guys during the game? Shouldn't they be watching and saying "Pull that guy, he exhibited symptoms!" Every time the Patriots break the rules, the NFL adds new ones, that only effect the other 31 teams.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:25 am
  • After the game the Panthers claimed he was poked in the eye.

    *I never saw him act like it was an eye poke
    *He wears a visor, so getting poked is possible but slim


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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:05 am
  • Refs and the league flat out CHOOSE to ignore certain things for certain players and team. Plain and simple.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:38 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Refs and the league flat out CHOOSE to ignore certain things for certain players and team. Plain and simple.


    Idk bout this, but they're certainly turning the other way in the playoffs.

    No way Cam should have finished the game yesterday. Hard for the NFL to expect everyone to take them seriously about CTE and their strict concussion rules and protocol when they're not enforcing it in the playoffs.

    Happened in our SB game against the Patriots, no way Edelman should have finished the game.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:03 pm
  • Or the QB who looked like he was having a seizure. A few plays later, he's back in the game. Hawks gets fined, other teams get squat. Also, after the pick by Ramsey, he runs to the goal post and dunks it, then he rips his helmet off in the field of play and THROWS it. Where was the penalty? P Rich getting yanked down to the ground on the Hawks' final play, no call. The ref CHOSE to ignore it. And the Edelman is more proof, they CHOSE to let the Pats do whatever they wanted. Yet Avril never came back in the game.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:43 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Or the QB who looked like he was having a seizure. A few plays later, he's back in the game. Hawks gets fined, other teams get squat. Also, after the pick by Ramsey, he runs to the goal post and dunks it, then he rips his helmet off in the field of play and THROWS it. Where was the penalty? P Rich getting yanked down to the ground on the Hawks' final play, no call. The ref CHOSE to ignore it. And the Edelman is more proof, they CHOSE to let the Pats do whatever they wanted. Yet Avril never came back in the game.


    Amendola got nailed and was walking around like a drunk chicken during the game but was allowed to come back. Getting Avril out of the game was the game changer. The Seahawks were dominating up to that point and had a 24-14 lead. Once Avril was gone, the Seahawk pass rush disintegrated. Considering all the DBs were playing hurt, it was premium that the Seahawks had to have a pass rush.
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Re: Evolving NFL double standards?
Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:58 am
  • Exactly, once Avril was out, they doubled Bennett, who they said was the only guy doing anything on the D Line. Made it much easier for the Pats.
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