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Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:09 pm

Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:23 pm
  • Eh, that sucks for them I guess, but when you have as many picks as they do and as much cap space, you can afford to make those kinds of mistakes and choose risky players. A margin for error another team in the NFCW couldn't really afford...
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:07 pm
  • He entered the league as a member of the substance abuse protocol. So what happens now?
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:33 pm
  • WmHBonney wrote:He entered the league as a member of the substance abuse protocol. So what happens now?

    I would assume it’s 4 games, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:11 pm
  • omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:56 pm
  • SF49r wrote:omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!

    It's stupid that weed is such an infraction; but that can't change in the NFL until it's legal nationwide. However, what's even more stupid is how many guys aren't smart enough to just give that crap up for the duration of their NFL careers.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:10 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    SF49r wrote:omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!

    It's stupid that weed is such an infraction; but that can't change in the NFL until it's legal nationwide. However, what's even more stupid is how many guys aren't smart enough to just give that crap up for the duration of their NFL careers.


    Yup, totally agree. Irony is you have to party when your young when you shouldn't, then have no interest in it when your old when you can.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:24 pm
  • Its disappointing if only because the NFL rules are a bit arcane on the subject and he should know that, but I'm not overly concerned.

    From what I've read it may void the guarantee in his contract (not the money itself) and might cost him a fine of two game checks but no suspension.

    Just hoping he makes some better decisions. It is a part of the reason he was available at 31 to begin with so I guess its just a part of the risk.

    Also worth noting that he is a big reason they wanted Ken Norton on staff as a mentor and why they let Ray Ray Armstrong go (bad influence). Reuben and Ray Ray were out late clubbing and nearly got mugged.

    I only hope they get it in check. So much talent and ability there. I've already seen it dashed once with Aldon Smith.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:33 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    SF49r wrote:omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!

    It's stupid that weed is such an infraction; but that can't change in the NFL until it's legal nationwide. However, what's even more stupid is how many guys aren't smart enough to just give that crap up for the duration of their NFL careers.

    Yeah its stupid, also if he wanted to smoke so bad he should at least do it in a state where its actually legal unlike Alabama lol
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:35 pm
  • SF49r wrote:Yeah its stupid, also if he wanted to smoke so bad he should at least do it in a state where its actually legal unlike Alabama lol

    No kidding. So many stupid rookies every year, it blows my mind.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:40 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    SF49r wrote:Yeah its stupid, also if he wanted to smoke so bad he should at least do it in a state where its actually legal unlike Alabama lol

    No kidding. So many stupid rookies every year, it blows my mind.

    Pretty much, character is a huge part of the draft. We are starting to see the effects of taking a top 5 pick when it comes to talent in the #31 slot.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:41 pm
  • SF49r wrote:
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    SF49r wrote:Yeah its stupid, also if he wanted to smoke so bad he should at least do it in a state where its actually legal unlike Alabama lol

    No kidding. So many stupid rookies every year, it blows my mind.

    Pretty much, character is a huge part of the draft. We are starting to see the effects of taking a top 5 pick in the #31 slot.

    Carroll's a big "second chance" guy, we've been there, lol.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:46 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
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    SF49r wrote:Yeah its stupid, also if he wanted to smoke so bad he should at least do it in a state where its actually legal unlike Alabama lol

    No kidding. So many stupid rookies every year, it blows my mind.

    Pretty much, character is a huge part of the draft. We are starting to see the effects of taking a top 5 pick in the #31 slot.

    Carroll's a big "second chance" guy, we've been there, lol.

    Maybe too much for his own good, just look at the Bevell/Cable situation you guys had lol
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:00 pm
  • I agree the whole weed thing is stupid, and it should be legal everywhere if you are over 21.

    But rules are rules!

    I cannot partake and weed is legal here in Washington due to my job where they can test us at anytime.
    I’m less than 6 years away from retirement and don’t want to lose my pension, medical/dental benes, paid vacation etc etc.
    And this guy has shit ton more to lose than I do, and is too stupid figure it out.

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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:20 pm
  • SF49r wrote:
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    RolandDeschain wrote:No kidding. So many stupid rookies every year, it blows my mind.

    Pretty much, character is a huge part of the draft. We are starting to see the effects of taking a top 5 pick in the #31 slot.

    Carroll's a big "second chance" guy, we've been there, lol.

    Maybe too much for his own good, just look at the Bevell/Cable situation you guys had lol

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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:21 pm
  • SF49r wrote:Maybe too much for his own good, just look at the Bevell/Cable situation you guys had lol

    Yeah, we kept that dead weight around toooooooooooo long. Agreed. :)
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:59 pm
  • Really sucks because I don't agree with people that say "weed is natural". It is not good for you but alcohol is 100x worse and is legal.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:43 am
  • seahawkfreak wrote:Really sucks because I don't agree with people that say "weed is natural". It is not good for you but alcohol is 100x worse and is legal.

    I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence that links alcohol being bad for you if used in moderation. Same with weed. Care to throw out a link or two?
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:01 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    SF49r wrote:omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!

    It's stupid that weed is such an infraction; but that can't change in the NFL until it's legal nationwide. However, what's even more stupid is how many guys aren't smart enough to just give that crap up for the duration of their NFL careers.


    The thing is, even if weed were fully legalized, the NFL has no reason to change their drug policy. In everyday life, Joe Schmoe will be fired from his job at Boeing or Microsoft if he tested positive for marijuana, just as he'd be fired if he went to work drunk. NFL players get more chances than Joe Schmoes, especially first round picks, so I won't shed a tear for any time he lost, and I would feel the same way if it was a Seahawk. There are plenty of ways you can smoke pot nowadays without placing yourself in that situation, so getting caught was his own fault. Just my opinion.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:35 am
  • With almost half the states now allowing it is just a matter of time before the Feds after this next election possibly finally make it legal.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:57 am
  • WmHBonney wrote:He entered the league as a member of the substance abuse protocol. So what happens now?



    He wasn’t technically in the league during the Combine, so this will only be categorized as his first offense, and it is already being reported as such.

    As a result, it is being reported that he will only lose a couple game checks with no suspension.

    The real question is if the Niners will yank the guarantees from his contract...
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:53 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:Really sucks because I don't agree with people that say "weed is natural". It is not good for you but alcohol is 100x worse and is legal.

    I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence that links alcohol being bad for you if used in moderation. Same with weed. Care to throw out a link or two?


    Never used the word moderation. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:15 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:
    SF49r wrote:omg weed!?!?! no way ban him for life!

    It's stupid that weed is such an infraction; but that can't change in the NFL until it's legal nationwide. However, what's even more stupid is how many guys aren't smart enough to just give that crap up for the duration of their NFL careers.


    The thing is, even if weed were fully legalized, the NFL has no reason to change their drug policy. In everyday life, Joe Schmoe will be fired from his job at Boeing or Microsoft if he tested positive for marijuana, just as he'd be fired if he went to work drunk. NFL players get more chances than Joe Schmoes, especially first round picks, so I won't shed a tear for any time he lost, and I would feel the same way if it was a Seahawk. There are plenty of ways you can smoke pot nowadays without placing yourself in that situation, so getting caught was his own fault. Just my opinion.

    Big difference between high on game day, and high on a day with no game or practice.

    Just like how you don't get fired for having a few drinks AFTER work, out at the bar with coworkers or in the privacy of your own home.

    Agreed about being smarter in where you do it, though.
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:50 pm
  • AF_BASS_MAN wrote:
    WmHBonney wrote:He entered the league as a member of the substance abuse protocol. So what happens now?



    He wasn’t technically in the league during the Combine, so this will only be categorized as his first offense, and it is already being reported as such.

    As a result, it is being reported that he will only lose a couple game checks with no suspension.

    The real question is if the Niners will yank the guarantees from his contract...



    Taken directly from the article.....

    "Because of the diluted sample, Foster entered the league in the substance abuse program."
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Re: Trouble in paradise
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:Its disappointing if only because the NFL rules are a bit arcane on the subject and he should know that, but I'm not overly concerned.

    From what I've read it may void the guarantee in his contract (not the money itself) and might cost him a fine of two game checks but no suspension.

    Just hoping he makes some better decisions. It is a part of the reason he was available at 31 to begin with so I guess its just a part of the risk.

    Also worth noting that he is a big reason they wanted Ken Norton on staff as a mentor and why they let Ray Ray Armstrong go (bad influence). Reuben and Ray Ray were out late clubbing and nearly got mugged.

    I only hope they get it in check. So much talent and ability there. I've already seen it dashed once with Aldon Smith.


    ....or not. Would have loved to have him as a mentor for Reuben.

    Not sure of him as a DC though after his stint in Oakland.
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